Round 4 same as round 3 the retcon happened for a reason. Lucifer Morningstar (DC) Respect Lucifer Morningstar! (DC/Vertigo) I am a bot | About | Code | Opt-out | Missing or wrong characters? Reply explaining the issue. Or, more accurately, He wills the predominating aspect of his presence from non-being to being, from void to reality, yet still encompassing both. @Prince CortSether said: Assuming PR Beyonder in this thread stands for Pre-retcon like it usually does. this is the Speed Tier List and how to put down the Speed on a Character Profile will be determined by these Reaction / Reflexes - the ability to distinguish between the movement of objects at a certain speed with a small distance (melee, less than 2 meters), with the possibility of taking any whatsoever countermeasures at this time, such as avoidance or. This thread wouldn't affect what tier Molecule Man (Pre-Retcon) is at because he still would be High 1-B. 2 years ago. This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Blueface1999 • Additional comment actions. The only thing Pre retcon beyonder has going for him against featherine is that he was described as "god" in the beyonder realm to possibly put him on her level. The Beyonder is a fictional character appearing in comicbooks published by Marvel Comics. The Mage: Molecule Man: Round 2: The Mages are Marauders. It's simple. He's was designed by Jim Shooter to be a catch-all explanation for the existence of all the other fiction. Member. Beyonder stomps Whole Touhou fodder verse with a thought,while beyonder has feats and proof of being 1-A(Outversal) not being limited to infinitely high geometric dimensions to the verse itself, there is touhou's verse in which the dimensions have been debunked and do not qualify as superior and the ability of yukari only works on beings of a level below her and does not work on beings of a. than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. I don’t know anything about Anos Voldigoad, but Beyonder beats pretty much anyone so I’ll. The powers of the PRB are attributed as unlimited; omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent. According to that one guy Anos could do it,. 4 years ago. 3 years ago. Within the beyond realm, he's supposed to be omnipresent. Elaine Belloc would win under both scenarios, 2nd would be pointless. The molecule man destroys the machine and sends the enormous energies of the Beyonder into his beyond-realm forming a big bang and creating a new universe in the process - Scan 1, Scan 2, Scan 3, Scan 4 and Scan 5. Only the Great Evil Beast is equal to The Presence. To start us off: What about:In fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. Alovenus is the strongest in fiction since Alovenus>Omnipotent beings. PRB was millions of times more powerful than all the poster in the Multiverse combined. Weaknesses. Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) Respect Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) Scarlet King (SCP) Respect The Scarlet King (SCP Foundation) Pre retcon beyonder was stronger than all of marvel multiverse combined with exception of TOAA. People already think Pre-Retcon Beyonder is around the One Above All (directly below, equal, or above), so this new big bad is gonna be busted in a confusing way, since a fraction of his is power. Pre-Retcon Beyonders was described to be like a child compared to the Beyonders we are seeing now. beyonder post-retcon ii (aka beyonder-inhuman-mutant) 4. Forum Posts. -Everything in bleach. If someone can actually name a more. This proves by showing you that he read the writer's mind and was able to talk to him and not only that, shred the comic-book and escaping to reality in 'Defenders: Beyond (2022-23)'Poll Current Lucifer Morningstar vs. Ruphas have Higher dimensional manip. ^2 + DUR^1. Yujiro defeated a big elephant that even 3 military cars with 5 black guys couldn't stop. Though with infinite power he is far more concerned about his place in life after being the all and everything within his realm he tries to understand the concepts of Life, Death, and Desire all things that he want experience. The Watchers. let's wait and see his actual feats. PR Beyonder > Celestials > Phoenix Force. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. Pre Retcon Beyonder is far above the Living Tribunal. Thor Vs Justice League : Vs AVENGERS : 12 Cosmic Beings in Marvel : 2, 2016. 0. . This is just plain wrong, we see SK fighting abstract entities like the 5th God who infinitely dwarf the entire collective of human consciousness, wich in the verse includes Platonic and Neoplatonic philosophy, several religions like Buddhism and Taoism, and alephs and other higher teir mathematics. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. Pre Retcon Beyonder is more insane than his diet coke race counterparts Hickman used (yes they predate Hickman as Kubik in that FF4 comic shows, I know). GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Victini could arguably do it if you allow Pokedex entries. Superhuman Strength: Superman Prime One Million has the ability to physically lift humongous levels of weight, and deliver physical blows of colossal magnitudes. The Beyonder erases Death itself from the Multiverse, the Living Tribunal and his delegation politely beg the Beyonder to bring back Death to the Multiverse. Lucifer Morningstar in character could probally beat him. Pre Retcon Beyonder gets wrecked hard lol. Per Hank Pym the events of SW2 actually DID happen and were not a "trick" by the abstract powers (which is what the retcon stated. At the time of the Secret Wars he was stated as being equal to the One Above All. So much so that the MU was below it's notice. He wins. " it would be pretty cool to get a tag team them lol but very interesting thank you for. A High Nigh-Omnipotent being; with no limits. Phoenix attacks Beyonder with all her power, Beyonder don't even flinch. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A(more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B(same as The Beyonder). 2. Although marvel uses numbers to calculate; it's as if he's Alef Null x Billion beyond infinity that already exist, which Tribunal and many others have already transcended. . Powers and Stats. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. Tier Sıralamasını benden iyi biliyorsan Elder Scrolls taki Dragonborn, Kratos ve Dante gibi karakterlerin tüm Mcu. perpetua slams but shinra one taps both because he’s tier -1 and transcends all. 5: Anyone with The Infinity Gauntlet (When it could be used in Unison)You need to be logged in to post comments. I feel like Pre-Retcon Beyonder can do practically anything unless someone "more omnipotent" negates his power in some way. Origin: Marvel Comics. He'd be incredibly more versetile with his approach in the fight. As in you're taking the story at face value. Your right about Oblivion shockingly. Locked post. R2: God stomps. PR Beyonder had full backing by Marvel Boss, Jim Shooter to do anything he wanted. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. Spectre is tapped into God so he has an unlimited amount of power at his disposal. R. VERDICT: For those unaware beyonder is not just 1-A: He's HIGH 1-A, FAR greater than infinity itself. Edit: Darkest Knight and anti-crisis wonder woman probably also beat the beyonder, as they are empowered by the infinite crisis or anti-crisis energy (the fundamental good/bad energies of the universe, as provided by the presence. Manhattan) and has recreated a galaxy. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used. When ranking the strength of characters the natural thing to go by first is physics. Round 2: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Alien X (author statements included). Beyonder wins with high difficulty . 0. Ima go with byonder. Well, they are treated as the same character, the Beyonder who showed up post-retcon is, canonically, the same Beyonder who showed up pre-Retcon. The 2nd Existential Seed said: Beyonder is either one of two things: Millions times stronger then Eternity, or millions times more powerful than LT + ( Even though I believe the first ) . 1. Xeranthemum from Suggsverse, at least going by the wiki. Molecule Man utterly in fear admitted that Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) is on levels unimaginable to him and self-stated that he cant Match Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) in power meaning that Beyonder was infinitely more powerful than him even when he was above all the powers of the cosmic hierarchy (Including: The Living Tribunal himself). Cosmic Elvis. Not to mention Beyonder detailing Doc Strange's win con over him, tailor. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. LT literally held the entirety of Marvel and DC universe in the palm of. Pre-Retcon Beyonder was the literal principle and the executioner at the same time yes their was scans of Beyonder TANKing universe busting and faster than light attacks he even was able to. Pre recton beyonder is one of the most over wanked marvel characters . I agree with his tier, but one thing I don't understand is how is beyonder above Oblivion when he is just above existene while Oblivion is not part of. in classic era: Jim. In terms of scaling, the downplay of most of the entire Marvel verse was frustrating. 6 + (POW + (SPS*SPL))^2 + COM^1. Bill also got more experience than Beyonder since Bill is over 1 trillion-year-old. Xeranthemum from Suggsverse, at least going by the wiki. i wanted to do this match but their was also too big of a tier gap, but now it can happen both 1-A obviouslyYujiro copies The Beyonder's abilities but then says he won't need them to defeat him before showing The Beyonder the woman in him. Gen. SCP-682's adaptive powers are seriously NLF-prone. Reply Slaine_Troyard •. . It's simple. 12984. ''. He is only nigh-omnipotent, nigh-omniescent, and nigh-omnipresent. Giratina has quickly established itself as one of the stronger characters of the Low 2-C tier. BeyonderGod's Beyonder is Omnipotent. Current Beyonder Tier upgrade CRT and coverup. Thus, Bill, in theory, could do something that the Beyonder never. Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) Respect Pre-Retcon Beyonder. And those mirrors were so fucking weak, that a bunch of low tier demons were already destroying them. True Form Pennywise ain't on Pre-Retcon Beyonder's level, lol. Just because Beyonder, originally wasnt from marvel multiverse doesnt mean that Beyonder isnt a marvel character, because he is. That being said, I’m going to give this one to the pre-retcon Beyonder. Lucifer is also technically the most intelligent being in DC besides God. (50% off!) Beyonder vs The Presence. They’re 50 tonners at most. It took 3 of the Beyonders to take down the same LT. Dr Manhattan isn't a match for Galactus, and Galactus is a mere insect to the Beyonder. So I might be missing something. Divyansh13. TonyStark6999. He was initially depicted as functionally omnipotent showing feats like creating planets and destroying galaxies. Name:' The Beyonder, The One From Beyond, The One Who is All, Frank. Originally Beyonder was a mysterious cosmic entity from outside the multiverse who was more powerful than Galactus, The Celestials, and the entire Cosmic Compass. Beyonder was everything outisde the Multi-verse. Origin: Marvel Comics. Spectre. Basically, either or both can be considered to be the presence, in either it's evil or good forms. ago. With that said, some random guy asked Tom Brevoort on Pre-retcon Beyonder being an omnipotent, and this is what he had to say. Even if it wasn't I'm pretty sure this wasn't added due to being a stomp. This is pre-retcon Beyonder. 213. At that time, The Beyonder was more powerful than the Living Tribunal and thus everything else in the Marvel Universe. Follow 3209. Edit: Looking at the respect threads PR Beyonder actually seems a lot more impressive, and it seems my point regarding Lucifer being half the Presence was wrong. That one time Phoenix Force making Pre Retcon Beyonder struggle: is this a testament to her power? Scan in question. Living Tribunal is beyond Eternity, and Pre-Retcon Beyonder was more powerful than LT. Posts. The energy breached into reality during the accident that gave Owen his powers, but as there was no container, a large part of such energy wandered off into another universe, creating the Beyonder. Source is responsible for high-tier multiversal beings that invoke omnipotent power to make ideas/concepts into being. He is the embodiment of the Beyonder Realm, a place much bigger than the Marvel Multiverse, outside of reality. 'Twas always thus, and always thus will be. Word Lords, the Celestis, Faction Paradox, etc. @Prince CortSether said: Assuming PR Beyonder in this thread stands for Pre-retcon like it usually does. We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured. Forums. Attack techniques and abilities: The Presence has many aspects including. However, the Beyonder is beyond (pun wholly, shamelessly intended) simply universe level+. Having said this,we cannot scale and judge Pre Retcon Beyonder from what the Ivory Kings do. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. vs. The original Beyonder was created for the Secret Wars (1985) miniseries. Death from what I remember had no power of Lucifer, only Destiny did - so I think it's safe to assume she scales below him. we dont really see him at that tier because of how much good servants are at controlling collateral damage. than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. Yes, the Ivory Kings are retcon back inspirations to Pre Retcon Beyonder, but they are merely inspirations. even characters like Doctor Doom, Spider-man were on God Tier using PRB Power. So as we know, Phoenix Force is an extremely powerful entity in Marvel. Name: Lucifer Morningstar Origin: DC Comics Classification: Angel Gender: Male Age: 10,000,000,000+ Years old Strength Lifting: Speed: Nigh-Omnipresence Striking Speed: Striking Strength: Durability: Intelligence: Nigh-Omniscience Range: Multiverse+ Level Destructive capacity. A Beyonder easily ripping off Thor's arm. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. Then there the Beyonder Child unit thing that is related to The beyonders. That's clearly an difference in power/authority. In the comics Homelander’s best objective strength feat is throwing a fighter jet across a room and he doesn’t have anything comparable in the show. @amendment50 @jardinain2 @decaf_wizard @watcher5000 Can help you out with his feats. 5 )^2 + (SPE*0. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. 548. #1. Beyonder is marvel. but the other writers ruined and screwed up these characters. . Location-The Multiverse. Manhattan. Reece became a lowly laboratory technician working at a nuclear plant owned by the Acme Atomics. Lucifer Morningstar at his strongest is Oblivion-tier. Literally any one of the hundred omnipotent beings in Marvel could. bonus: lỊch sỬ cÁc lẦn retcon cỦa beyonder – kẺ sỞ hỮu nhỮng feat bÁ ĐẠo nhẤt lỊch sỬ marvel comic. Well COIE Anti Monitor, as powerful as he may be, is actually a little out of his league here. Divine mystical enhancements granting near omnipotent abilities. MrStealYoSweetroll • 2 yr. 4 years ago. @zxzcczzcxz said: Fodder comic verse that lose to barely street tier verse and can't beat Warframe and Destiny vs high. 214. Ruphas not in baseline L1A, Ruphas can easily defeated Alovenus which is rated L1A character. Beyonder - vs - Beyonder # 3. It is capable of becoming a Multiversal threat, but it's vastly weaker than any of the Apollyon-Class SCPs. my favourite DC tier 1 Beyonder: 1 TTR: Over 8 The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) Quantu. no one can tell, if he was less powerful than TOAA or equal, PR Beyonder was stated by Stan lee to be omnipotent, but the meaning of omnipotent is debatable. 1. Pre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. I have him at Multiversal. Holo-Man • 3 yr. Servant tier -the gil that appears at fate stay night, fate strange fake and as a servant in fate go(not the alive gil). Text under CC-BY-SA licenseWe can actually prove that Pre-Retcon Beyonder is fodder to Composite-DC. ago. Round 2: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs God of Stories Loki Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Venom (The End) Archived post. Dude’s absolutely broken. . SirMethos. Nothing's ever more ridiculous than claiming a guy who got extremely tired just from erasing Death from the multiverse, jobs like fucking crazy during Secret Wars II and lost a serious fight to Rachel Summers (which everyone seems to. The Beyonder should easily be Tier 0 and here's why:-. 3. Pre Retcon Beyonder is multiversal while Homelander is low A tier. 4 12 12 comments Best Top New Controversial Q&A CynicalWeeaboo • 7 yr. Tier: 1-B | 1-A. Forum Posts. 6,016 2,373. which. - Neither. ;. Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. CCC Gilgamesh vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder. The Beyonder was once a God with limitless powers in the Marvel Omniverse. 0. 8 years ago. In terms of straight up feats CAS Lucifer and Mandrakk all technically show better feats then Perpetua. God’s best feat is him creating the concept of light with a single command, while Beyonder has crazy other things that are more impressive. 66. . Keenko. He. The Beyonder is millions of times more powerful than the combined power in the multiverse which includes the Living Tribunal - Scan 1. beyonder (pre-retcon) eternity galactus (marvel comics) marvel comics molecule man oblivion thanos (marvel comics) the beyonders the first firmament the living tribunal Replies: 12; Forum: Questions and Answers Pre Retcon Beyonder Stomps, the only powers that could hope to challenge him are The One Above, the Ultimate Source, The Presence, The Living Tribunal. Conditions of the battle: *Composite Time Lords will include variants of the Time Lords from the Expanded Doctor Who Universe (e. which is. -. #2 deactivated-629d3023b5b49. Inbetweener. The Beyonder tells "We're the real. 6 + (POW + (SPS*SPL))^2 + COM^1. . Wiki Points. 1431. Pre Retcon Beyonder'in seviyesi benim gözümde Mandrakk ile aynıdır ki buna göre sadece Vertigodan bile bayağı bir karakter yazabilirim bende. More than just high1-b, only this support for low 1-a. Yes, pre-retcon MM was strong, but he needed so much support to get anything done. #2. Not only this, due to scaling, Hajun has taken. Who will win in a fight between Beyonder and Multi-Oblivion & Oblivion (Pre-Retcon)?The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is the embodiment of the Beyond-Realm and is the chief of the extra-dimensional race the Beyonders who created the cosmic cubes and Kosmos, but the Maker (one of the. I can break this down into more detail. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Yeah true. Carey and JM De Matteis brought the guns, material and ammunition NEEDED to make DC the second-first tier most powerful fiction. If i had to lowkey choose one blindly, i'd go with PRB. The Beyonder/s (Marvel) vs Bleach universe. Molecule Man has fought Pre-Retcon Beyonder (who is more powerful than Dr. The Beyonder is an infamous member of the Beyonder race. 2. PR Beyonder was able to erase LT with a wave of his hand. -Beyonder/s are bloodlusted. 5 years ago. Beyonder scaled above all. Share Sort by: Best. They literally referenced him and said that he was just a child. I realize that this doesn't exactly answer your question. Some overkill ones would be The Brothers Death (apart from maybe small death), Scarlet King, etc. What teams could maybe stand a chance against pre-retcon Beyonder? Total defeat optional (if possible). The Beyonder, and Molecule man, are each. Tier= Universal+ | Creation. A statement from Mephisto referring to that part of power as "so potenti is this. There has been several incarnations of the Beyonder, each a retcon of the one before. I mean, Beyonder hilariously outclasses Merc in terms of AP, but their conceptual hax seems about equal. COIE Anti Monitor. 0. Interesting. @Metalslash said: MJJ wins. ago No. Black Friday DEAL: 1 Year Membership for $5. His powers exceeded that of even abstract entities present in infinite realms, coupled with the LT who holds authority over said entities to the point where their powers are a drop in the ocean to him. They live here, and decided to fuck shit up. Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated. Pre retcon Beyonder is probably the closest you'd get, I'd say Lucifer could even beat the living tribunal, not really anyone else who comes close. PRB has a lot of showings that would suggest otherwise. Jump Force Goku view all Shonen as fiction how will Pre Retcon Beyonder will win. 2nd Retcon - The BEyonder. The Beyonder was originally an organizer of a massive. please everyone change your vote there is no way Beyonder (pre retcon) looses here the "FRA" movement here is based off a. Omnipotent, Beyonder organized an event called Secret Wars, in which he kidnapped the most important superheroes and supervillains in the Marvel universe, for a confrontation between them on a distant planet. This was the same time the first Secret Wars wherein Beyonder first. He needed to use his entire power to kill mistress death which left him drained . Win by death, KO, incapBeyonder (Pre Retcon) Molecule Man(Pre Retcon) The Living Tribunal; Oblivion; Amatsu-Mikaboshi (Chaos King) Cosmic Entities. Beyonder(Pre-Retcon) Tier 1. "The Beyond" was quintillions of times more massive than the Marvel Universe. CsmicRanker1314 1. Also, I should mention that they are probably re-retconning him to his previous levels soon. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. Seriously, Nyarlathotep has done more than all the others listed and Demonbane pimpslapped her. it would be mostly stalemate. Pre Retcon Beyonder is far far beyond any of his other forms. Beyonder, Solar vs. 5 years ago Gojira25124-Beyonder True Omnipotent değildir sadece Hyperversal level omnipotenttir. Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Pre Retcon Beyonder. PanzerX. hÀng nguyÊn bẢn- beyonder pre-retcon; 2. Any of the Smash gods could do it, and so would the beings above. High 3-A. 3 years ago. Round 2: Franklin wins. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. If we ignore Thought Robot's plot manipulating and implied power and go by feats, then I think Beyonder stops at round 9. Even if you want to argue that Beyonder is stronger, it doesn't matter, since Death has already feats of claiming infinite-dimensional entities, that are even. He was like the 2nd strongest guy in Marvel, only underneath the One Above All. LT got rekt by beyonder Reply Ozymandias935 • Additional comment actions. Post-retcon isn’t anywhere near as powerful as Classic (Pre), but he’s still pretty powerful. Round 9: Lord English (Anyone who served him and who were amped by him count) Respect Thread for him and a bit for his Servants. 3 years ago. Anyone trying to still argue Pre Retcon Beyonder is some Marvel top tier needs to have their info refreshed. Per Hank Pym the events of SW2 actually DID happen and were not a "trick" by the abstract powers (which is what the retcon stated. 7 K than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. xyrzrockrain. Manhattan's league. While thinking the Beyonder accidentally destroys the Omniverse. Beyonder (Post-Retcon) Beyonder Prime Marvel Universe. Origin: Marvel. As we can recall Pre Retcon Molecule Man was close in range to The Pre-retcon Beyonder, but even still was no match for him. According to that one guy Anos could do it, though I take that with a pinch of salt. Especially Yujiro's penis. Both High 1-B Thanos: 2 Beyonder:8 Inconclusive: 1 P. Transcendent. Pre Retcon is still cooler, jist because of cosmology Expansion, defenders beyonder seems stronger but he is featless for now. beyonder post-retcon i (aka beyonder cosmic cube) 3. ProfessorRespect. A desperate Molecule Man begins crying about the. The Pre retcon Beyonder also known as (Original beyonder) is a fictional character in the Marvel Comics universe. He was like the 2nd strongest guy in Marvel, only underneath the One Above All. Possibly so, but if he was talking about. I have little knowledge on LT Unfourantlly other then he's a God Tier in. He's a high tier multiversal reality warper. Pre-Retcon Beyonder for the win, its just that one panel's narration about being billions or was it millions of times more powerful then all the multiverse combined, thats what convinces me he is above TOAA. Many People are Underestimating Pre Retcon Beyonder in The Comments but they are forgetting some thing. • Speed: The Beyonder doesn't have too many solid speed feats, Omnipresence isn't considered as a speed tier but rather a state of existence + he's only omnipresent within his realm. Introduction on The Beyonder: OHOTMU v2 #16: The Beyonder was an extra-dimensional entity which was the sum of everything in the universe known as the Beyond-realm, and became aware of our universe/multiverse due to Owen's. MJJ's powers keep increasing exponentialy. The same exact way Presence is the Supreme Being of the DC Multiverse. #20. He was the TOAA of. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . The Pre-Retcon Beyonder TOAA is Marvel and the Presence/Elaine Belloc is DC, but there's a quote by Jim Shooter and Stan Lee from Marvel that puts The Pre-Retcon Beyonder more higher--even above TOAA, (including Elaine Belloc AKA the Presence) and that's “being millions and millions of times more powerful than Marvel". THe nature and effects of the Retcon are irrelevant. K. Its not like the writer of marvel has dominon only over character. He'd beat composite Superman, let alone this robot. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A (more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B (same as The Beyonder). But that doesn't mean Perpetua's feats are bad. Pre-Retcon Molecule Man is considered comparable to Pre-Retcon Beyonder, and there is a vast supply of evidence proves that Molecule Man was not in fact comparable to the. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the neverending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's greatest heroes. Both Beyonder (assuming this is him outside his personal realm) and the Presence, since both are like Low 1-B, this could go either way. Beyonder 73%. Beyonder was affecting the entire Marvel multiverse or omniverse, or something like that, all at once. Beyonder is tier High 1-B for being an infinite dimensional being meaning that the Marvel Universe has infinite dimensions confirmed. Beyonder before the retcon was stronger than TLT. ^2 + DUR^1. If we don't then I think he would stop at 6 since Thought Robot is plot device designed to always beat the villain and Beyonder would be the villain in this situation from the perspective of Though Robot. he has base stats of high island ap and dura with near sol speed and ftl combat speed. the_doctor. TOAA: Got KOed by Thanos with the Regulator, stated he wasn't omnipotent unless the multiverse had "order", smaller multiverse. Honestly, current molecule man is a powerhouse even now, maybe even more so than his Pre-Retcon self. Pretty sure he can't do shit to The Presence lol & there's also Lucy & Michael there. Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) Respect Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) Scarlet King (SCP). -. Pre-retcon Beyonder is beyond all that. Rune King Thor is still under beings such as The Living Tribunal infinitely. His Abilites consist of Powers and. Not an expert on Beyonder, I just have a rough idea of his tier of power. Conceptual Warping Tier C vs Particle Manipulating Tier B. Pre-Retcon Beyonder (33 votes) Lucifer 61%. Bernkastel vs her servant Will ( not an actual battle. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. but the other writers ruined and screwed up these characters. One Punch Man gets one punched by Beyonder and the shock wave from the punch kills Squirrel Girl as well. @divinemaster: seeing no one is making an argument For Pre Retcon Beyonder, i will play the devil's advocate.